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Thursday, June 1, 2023
1:00 p.m. — 3:00 p.m. EDT

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601 Lakeside Ave Cleveland, OH 44114 (Directions)

City Hall (Attend in person or watch via YouTube), Mercedes Cotner Committee Room 217

The Utilities Committee of Cleveland City Council considers legislation relating to the city-owned Water Department, Cleveland Public Power and Water Pollution Control, which is responsible for managing the sanitary sewage and storm water drainage collection systems in Cleveland. The committee is tasked with ensuring that all utility services are being provided at a reasonable cost and examining any increase in service fees and rates when necessary, as well as exploring how physical infrastructure and distribution methods can improve information technology, digitalization and smart technology to enhance internal and external city operations.

On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandCityCouncil/streams On TV20: http://www.tv20cleveland.com/watch-now/

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Reporting

Edited and summarized by the Cleveland - OH Documenters Team

Live reporting by Daniel McLaughlin

Committee holds city's plan for broadband internet

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The Utilities committee is concerned with public utilities and information technology for the City of the Cleveland.

Today’s meeting has just one item on the agenda: a contract with @DigitalC_org for a citywide broadband network https://t.co/oDw18mqew8

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You can find the agenda and the materials for today’s meeting on @CleCityCouncil‘s site here (as of this morning, the links for the Digital C presentation & slide deck weren’t working though): https://cityofcleveland.legistar.com/MeetingDetail.aspx?ID=1105733&GUID=590C6821-0590-472E-9A12-0E6312AEE848&G=2EB18EF1-2C21-4D1D-85C9-B38100AB8FFD&Options=&Search=

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Here’s who serves on the Utilities committee
@kazy_brian @jennyspencercle @KBishopCLEWard2 Deborah Gray @KrisHarsh Danny Kelly, Mike Polensek https://t.co/j4Vci67Tjo

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The meeting is scheduled for 1 pm and should be streaming live on @CleCityCouncil‘s YouTube channel and TV20: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandCityCouncil/featured

Just waiting for the livestream to begin…

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The meeting stream is up - the beginning of the meeting wasn’t captured though

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Now the committee is hearing from Joshua Edmonds, the head of Digital C https://t.co/FbN1sS8I07

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I’ll try and get screenshots of the presentation. The link for this slide deck in the agenda still doesn’t appear to be working https://t.co/i83LcbMgAC

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Edmonds sez Digital C didn’t start as an internet service provider, but grew into it from providing indoor wifi connections.
They’ve been an internet service provider since 2021.
Digital C has 1,000 customers thru a partnership w/ Metro & CHMA https://t.co/3RpGQj6vb0

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Digital C’s plan: expand network citywide over 18 months (3 6-month phases), starting with east side wards 5, 6, 7 & 9 https://t.co/OzAXYkPrSd

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Digital C is proposing $18 per month service with higher than gov’t minimum standards fir “high speed” internet (although it sounds like gov’t minimum standards will increase soon)

100/100 Mbps is sufficient to support multiple devices + video streaming https://t.co/JCnnw3AQIR

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Digital C’s internet service is wireless, delivered via ~120 towers when its citywide. Edmonds says they’ll be able to use existing towers instead of building all new towers

Residents would have a small unit mounted to their residence to connect https://t.co/craGLAJc5S

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Digital C is planning to work w/ their partners as well as use door to door outreach to get residents connected to service as well as digital skills classes https://t.co/PThHnD9r2X

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Edmonds says they have a $20 million grant lined up from the Mandel Foundation (to match the $20M they’re asking from the City) as well as a $3 million Federal earmark. https://t.co/bIOgr6EUOE

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Another look at Digital C’s timeline to connect residents to internet service and digital literacy training https://t.co/Oe4CVYavhl

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Ward 17 Charles Slife asked about service to Riverside Park (CMHA property by the airport) considering height restrictions & frequency issues near Hopkins

Edmonds says they’re using existing cell towers. If you can make a cell phone call you should be able to access the service

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Ward 15 Jenny Spencer asks how many high speed internet customers Digital C currently has

A: ~2,000

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Jenny Spencer also asked about timelines for build out & enrollment (assuming an August 2023 start):

18 months to build out the network citywide,

But it’s 4 years to expand from 2,000 to 23,000 households (and achieve sustainable revenue)

Cleveland has 170,000 total households

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nerd tweet:

Digital C is using refractory technology which doesn’t require a direct line of sight. It’s overbuilt with multiple connection points to make sure even when there’s interference (from foliage, for example) to provide consistent 100/100 Mbps service

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Ward 8 Mike Polensek asks if Digital C will pay a franchise fee to the city of Cleveland.

City’s Austin Davis says no – state law now bans franchise fees from service providers

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Digital C’s $18/month internet service cost is contractually locked-in for five years.

After that (say, 2029) it can go up based on inflation rate

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Digital C has a team that does installation and also contracts with Shoreworx, a Cleveland company headed by Chuck Norris.

Digital C has a service hotline staffed at the Cleveland Sight Center to troubleshoot service issues and can dispatch teams if needed

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a motion passed to amend the legislation to require Digital C to make quarterly updates to Council re: installation progress

also will need to make its quarterly service optimization records public

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Ward 4 Deborah Gray asks about Digital C’s community engagement, esp. in Mt. Pleasant.

Edmonds says that Digital C isn’t planning to hold neighborhood engagement efforts until they have a date they’re confident they can begin installations there.

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Ward 16 Brian Kazy asks about the marketing plan. “You’ve been around four years and only have 2,000 customers”

Edmonds says that’s why Digital C has undergone a “rebalancing” and has a new marketing person.

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Brian Kazy says Digital C needs a permit to be able to do door-to-door solicitation in the City of Cleveland. Says he’s instructed Ward 16 residents not to open the door to any solicitors w/out a permit

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Ward 13 Kris Harsh clarifies something I was confused about: the $20 million is not ARPA money. It’s from “revenue recovery of ARPA funds” (I’m unsure what the difference is)

The 100/100 Mbps requirements for spending ARPA funds don’t apply here

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Ward 13 Kris Harsh says Digital C has a “checkered history” of overpromising & underdelivering

2020 had a plan to connect 40,000 subscribers, in 2023 currently has 2,000

Harsh asked about (and I think sounded skeptical) of the org’s ability to break even in 4 yr @ 23k customers

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Kris Harsh also asked about connections b/w Edmonds and Mayor Bibb. Asked if Edmonds was at a Miami function w/ Bibb (Edmonds said he wanted to go, but couldn’t)

Also asked if Edmonds knew Digital C’s proposal would be selected before signing on to head Digital C last year

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Councilmembers Polensek and Harsh recommended holding the legislation until there’s more information/answers to their questions

Kazy says he’s holding the legislation til July.

Kazy says Digital C “hasn’t proven itself” yet but they’ll “work together to figure something out”

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And with that, the meeting was adjourned. ~2 hours 45 minutes long, and about 15 people were watching with me on YouTube at one point

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It sounds like Councilmembers are a bit skeptical of Digital C’s ability to carry out this plan, given their previous ambitions and current status (big plans for lotsa subscribers, still sitting at only 2k)

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Though the committee ended without moving the legislation forward, it ended on what I thought sounded like an optimistic sounding note ahead of another hearing on this in July.

I wonder what will be different about Digital C’s proposals or council’s thoughts later this summer?

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This concludes my coverage of today’s @CleCityCouncil Utilities committee meeting

Have questions? Think we got something wrong? Send any inquiries on the meeting or these tweets to @cledocumenters. Or email us at cledocumenters@gmail.com

Note-taking by Regina Samuels

Committee digs into details of Digital C broadband proposal

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