Landmarks Commission

This is the link for the Meeting earlier

Its a bit longer than usual but there’s some things going on in the department and the city…
Julie Trott read the preamble and the Meeting was started

First order of business @playhousesquare wants a new marquee! https://t.co/aAfu8iDFxl

Many people are attached to the project according to the spokesperson with more to come.. the marquee and other signage and TV are now 10 years old.. the speaker has been in with the company decades. And is confident that the project respects the guidelines

In comparison to Lincoln Square and other destinations in the country, the company feels it has a brand. The exterior while modern respects the interior architecture and design

The marquees in question are the Hanna and other places in the area..

Various types of changes have occurred in the past century. These are the most recent https://t.co/UkB32ynEIF

These are the proposed changes to the project. The choice of materials is sensitive to the daytime appearance as well https://t.co/5VLztRCW8W

The Allen Theater is one of the areas. Serious deterioration has occurred.. dimensions are considered.
Euclid Avenue used to be a trolley car street.
This is the current idea https://t.co/IH9DtWSJkT

It is able to be removed without damaging the architecture of the exterior.. gold paint is used to pick up daytime and night lighting..
The curvature of the original door is kept.

Drainage is a consideration. Structural materials have been in respect to the needs of the project.. colors are being used..

Domed Security is inculcated in the design. With every customer in mind. In the entire project. Full color LED Light is used

The letters are back lighted.. the Buckley Building currently don’t have a marquee. The entrance is historic.
Now the people of #Cleveland will know that there are other theaters inside this is the proposed version https://t.co/hcQEzfYZ86

Original stones are to be kept from the renovation
The Ohio theater has damages from renovations from the 78 job. The new sign is going to be closer to the building as the others.. this is the ceiling and proposed changes https://t.co/8cleWEsSjs

The same treatment is planned for the State theater which is badly damaged by normal conditions. The modified marquee will have a slope enclosed. Same colors…grand hall extended in red…
Connor Palace is the next one presented

Similar but it is larger than the other ones.. the ceiling is coming outside as well..
The Hanna across the street is in serious need of updating
This is the plan. https://t.co/MyJriRVd8H

This sign is proposed for the 2nd floor https://t.co/EhkOtZstI4

Lighting is a special feature for the business. Quite a bit of details are used during this presentation.. the paint suggested reflective the light..

Shannen Leonard said the code has restrictions
These non conforming factors speak to entertainment area

She cannot give variance but the Landmark committee can..

Currently they have 11 stages and theater
Parcel number allows the actions necessary
Allison Hennie from City planning department commended the work so far

There wasn’t an unanimous decision on this Hennie said.. this was the first time seeing this.
The commission is weighing in..
Mostly positive input on the consistent branding but more change would be nice said Carter Edman who had to leave early https://t.co/W4UOkjPLVI

Karl Brunjes made a relevant point about the history of the area. Each theater had its own unique design.. each one competed with the other
Further research showed evidence of the grand scale marquees of the past https://t.co/YiZqLKeTRT

Staff approved with conditions
Commission continues with Strickland who said the area is the busiest.

Trott said she supports this idea.
The blade signs are the question she has.. some modifications are planned without painting them. Trott disagreed

She further questions the name of the Great Lake Hanna .. she wants to know how the blade signs are integrated into the idea

She supports with conditions
Bonezzi lives in the area and likes the idea but has issues with some details of font size of the names of each theater Ohio and State in particular

Michelle Anderson is in support of the project.. she trusts several partners but questions the additional signs.. to accommodate the additional theaters..

Brancatelli spoke to his support for the project
Details of the blade and other things are questioned

The presenter went through the history of planning this project.
Up to this date.. he spoke of an article published somewhat prematurely..

Another presenter Danny was apologetic and wanted to share his screen. Side by side show the difference between them

He spoke to the driver and pedestrian experience is different thus the blade signs vs
Flat are there

Letter fonts are reflective of the brand that is the former Hanna

More applicants spoke to research and inspiration from other places.. mention of ornaments and scrolls etc traditional style on each of these

@GLBC_Cleveland is the sponsor for the #Hanna theater
Thus, the reason for the font of the project there.
The finished product is expected in June 2023..
The vote is going to be individual on each project.. 7

Julie Trott asked for sign for the #PresidentsClub to be brought up and asked for a motion
Motion made to approve as presented
Motion passed
Next motion regarding the #Buckley theater
Moved with stipulations for funding from outside sources
Motion passed

Next up is the ##GreatLakesHanna
Motion made with variances
Motion passed.
#ConnorPalace is next
Motion made to approve as noted
Trott said the blade signs should also be changed to match
At that the presenter sites that the removal and restoration costs

And asked it be In future requests

Trott is agreeable Motion passed

On to the #Allen
Motion made with guidelines for standards and variance blade signs
Motion passed 7-1

#State with variance of blade signs
Motion passed
7-1
#Ohio moved in Motion
With reduced size and corner elements

And blade signs
Passed 7-1

Next applicants on the West side

Zach Cooper is the first presenter for the project https://t.co/ma6xX385lS

Cooper has lived in many places but has been drawn back to #Cleveland excited to be part of the growth
He turns it over the development team
Katalin Tomascheks’ research shows the building dates to the late 1800s its architecture is a great feature https://t.co/MvO33jKNZF

A funeral home was opened in the building. And it has several storefronts and staircases

Additional signs and changes over the years
Part of the structure was damaged
Water and weather damage has occurred.

After speaking with a previous owner he said the architect was ahead of his time with the art deco features and current idea
Removal of the canopy is desired https://t.co/c4kAWAkPE2

Current decorations on the structure will be cleaned
New windows needs to be installed
@Pella_News is the vendor selected
Signs are not in the proposed changes today but they are sensitive to the details keeping the theme and design

Black granite is planned for the exterior with blonde brick
Site plan has a side yard that the owner wants to park in they request 3 spaces one with #ADA
Specific details a iron fence and sign for pedestrian traffic
There are other businesses in the area https://t.co/WqS8RLanTJ

The owner wants #Mensfashion
And entertainment space..
He is not having a bar open until 2 AM…but a unique space for his clients in this concept
This is not just another bar on Lorain… https://t.co/ReMaprvZxT

Ohio city support the project with some suggestions on the project
Applicants agree with the suggestion but is having financial problems in this stage
Staff reports show needs conditional changes as read by Brunjes
This includes landscaping etc

Matthew spoke about the current parking issues and a possible tradeoff https://t.co/iuiBSpw8TB

Trott opened the floor
For comments
Bonezzi loves the design of the project but has concerns about the parking spaces.. given the business plan on limited use he supports wanting other opinions

Natural stone restoration is another comments from the commission and the #ArtDeco styling
Additional space use is another concern
Zach Cooper said that he plans to use the area for wedding suits etc..

Establishing a great space for men to get ready for the project
Liquor service is a small part of the membership said Cooper
Thus the parking is not a great deal in his words.. shop and drink and perhaps become a member like CUPS…

Modern respects and entertainment is the General purpose..
Granite is a sharp contrast that was agreed upon..
This is an ongoing process but the darker material is a part of the plan.

Additional comments about the graffiti on the past in regards to the leaded glass Anderson questioned why its being removed..
Partial coverage is the reason but we plan to use them in the structure Cooper said.
She further questioned other windows

These are double hung and the replacement is intended to be the same type.. adjustment can be made the architect said
Anderson said she likes the design of the project but the black canopy and other places gives concern as other members said

Further discussion about the parking area from Anderson
Trott also appreciates the attention to the project
She would prefer keeping the windows.. she has issues with the parking as well she doesn’t fully support but asked for a motion
Motion with cond

Stronger conditions with the parking were suggested by Giancarlo and Brunjes the motion was amended
Motion passed

Next up 4604 Clinton Ave its a restoration of an existing home
Vinyl siding had been and the present owner wants to remove it https://t.co/UN9SRCH7Cm

Keeping the tone of the area landscaping fencing and other changes are proposed
It’s a 2 family that will be fashioned for a single family https://t.co/u45PP0xg4U

Block club and CDC changes include wood restorations including porch https://t.co/heH8zXvAau

Many objections on materials were gauged by the CDC
The recommendation be indicated in writing
The materials are a factor
Commission questions about a shared curb cut and a shared property

Anderson questioned the difference in the whites and keeping up with the historic theme in the neighborhood. Another concern is the indigo shade gray and dark colors are everywhere. She’s not comfortable seeing so much of it.
No alley to the house either

Future townhouses are being planned but the condition are unique.. said the owner.. Anderson’s concerns about the porch material and the front door..Chris Rood said the door is original he is open to changes in the color https://t.co/I9JGGBAejn

Bonezzi spoke to the trends in color. Soffits and fascias would have to be looked at the presenter said…
Bonezzi said the white should be unified..
The driveway is interesting but he supports
Trott summed up the project and asked for a motion to approve

Motion made with conditions about windows and other things
Motion passed

Next up, Trott is leaving the meeting and @TonyBrancatelli will be in charge Bonezzi also has to leave.. other people are going too… quorum is 5 or more.. after the start

Applicants can object to the lack of members…
The Meeting continued
North Blvd area of E 99th
Demolition https://t.co/iRQQG1u85L

Many actions on the property over 100k in taxes are due https://t.co/il5OGLF6Pn

It jumps out in a negative way
The cityofcleveland has boarded up on several times https://t.co/SU6Vzm7D9E

Neighbors are in favor of taking the property down. No pleasure is in the destruction Abromovich said but the people who live in the area are affected https://t.co/lQNARWWYnw

Site visits were done earlier this year https://t.co/nO9GUk4ML0

Staff reports show it was tabled earlier because of lack of quorum and the previous comments on restoration
What plans would be in use after the demolition..
City landbank would get it if its a lot
Structures are county landbank usually

How did the taxes get so high was asked.. Brancatelli explained that although the many structures are delinquent only a few are actually torn down..
No one has stepped up to take care of this house even with 116,000 dollars past owing lot https://t.co/njVzALKOLQ

Brunjes had a few heartfelt comments about demolition of the property.
The history and other aspects of the house he illustrated that the house had been on the radar for some time. Its not beyond repair. He spoke of the large number of vacant homes in Ward9

Whether or not it’s appropriate there are no programs to address the issue 1500+ parcels in the ward as well 8 homes in the same area.. Brunjes said with such conviction
“We cannot demolish our way to better communities…

Historical preservation has been used to restore areas like Tremont Gordon Square didn’t just happen overnight.. Brunjes continued he has been working with other people in order to preserve.. he asked for 6 months to get restoration

No permits were taken out in 1996 because of special circumstances and financial

Now open to the remaining members
Bonezzi is in agreement with Brunjes in that this only happens in the same area.

It will take going beyond solution to save neighborhood

He agrees to the project being tabled.. Subcommittees of consideration needs to happened.. he thanked Brunjes for his standpoint.. secure the home beyond the usual way and use the same time to address the issue

Brancatelli spoke to the new construction vs the vacant lot

Anderson agrees with Bonezzi
The home has quality of the neighborhood that will not be replaced with new plastic homes..it’s immensely frustrating https://t.co/S4AtOqtedt

There should be a system in place.. with resources she said

Costs associated are asbestos surveys and demolition of 25k or more is costing the people too..

How do we get resources in order not to continue to demolish Anderson questioned..
Brancatelli tells of over 25 million dollars set aside
Other CDC in the area are using the funds.. awareness of the vacant housing before the onset of dilapidated homes

Brancatelli agreed and asks about the last tabling of the project.. prior members are gone now fresh eyes would not pass this and be in favor for restoration of the project
Anderson wants to know about the entire house boarded up

Allen isn’t in agreement with saving the home. He asked about imminent danger and was told it’s not
He doesn’t know if it can be restored https://t.co/RoBAd0uhV1

Alex from the city said building capacity would take real work

We need real options

Brancatelli said he made a visit to the area. Spoke with the people in the area.
There’s shiny apples in the area.. what costs associated with the property is too much

With no program in place for the project and the situation at hand
Anderson spoke to the demolition in Tremont that she doesn’t want repeating continuously..
She agrees no program is the problem..
Bonezzi said he made a reluctant decision to support demo

Motion made 4-1
Bonezzi said he would like the comments in this session be used as preventing this continue
Both from the county holding the properties..

Closing remarks on the commission were made
And with that we are adjourned

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Special thanx to @Doug_Pitorak and the rest of the @cledocumenters family for their over standing https://t.co/zkQ9dZLoEA